How Doctor Doom Aided in the Creation of Kang the Conqueror

Today, we examine how Doctor Doom contributed to the construction of the Conqueror Kang.

I highlight several interesting examples of interconnected comic book universes in “Our Lives Together.” Crossroads are not actually crossroads, you know.

One intriguing thing about the so-called “Marvel Method” of creating comic book stories is that far before the Marvel Age of Comics, there was the idea of an artist making a comic book story and then another author adding speech to the finished pages.

This approach was quite the same in the time that Kirby and Simon produced several comic books a month together (Kirby drew his comics out and helped Simon sometimes to compose his caricatures, and Kirby draw his problems with Kirby’s books and inked the books of Kirby – Simon may have it, as it was, in the days when Simone drew up several comic books together.

When he joined Marvel in the late 1950s, Kirby continued up same strategy (then called Atlas). Steve Ditko, another atlass artist, also revealed that he was able to create his own plots to allow Kirby and Ditko to do their own work (Ditko, though, would definitely talk over plots with Atlas Editor-in-Chief, Stan Lee, at the time).

However, when the Marvel Age of Comics started at the beginning of the ’60s, that meant you had a few Kirby and Ditko’s books, two of the best comic book plotters in history, and a dialog from Stan Lee’s very popular word styles and then you would have… other comic books. So Stan Lee came up with the idea that at least almost all of the comics would let him to speak. He had all the OTHER Marvel artists draw their own comics, and then Lee would engage in discussion instead of paying for the stories that were not the same “sound” as the novels Lee wrote.

I bring this up to explain precisely why the time travel in the Marvel universe was usually completely uncohesive because you would have Kirby plot his stuff, which would all be bound together, but afterwards you would have a story idea from Don Heck a couple of issues and a completely different idea of traveling around time. This finally left Marvel with an utterly confused time journey that authors later had to relocate mountains to attempt and make sense of everything.
However, there was a far more coherent line in, instance, Kirby/Lee Book, since they were using the Fantastic Four literally to set up the time-traveling monster Kang the Conqueror from Avenger.

The fantastic four traveled to the past to the Fantastic Four of 1963’s Fantastic Four # 19 (by Kirby, Lee and Dick Ayers) and then met Rama-Tut, a far-away pharaoh!

That problem ended with Rama-Tut, and we left him at his own pace. The upcoming Fantastic Four Annual #2 was spotted by Rama-Tut in 1964. Back then, Kirby and Lee had explicitly reconsidered Doom’s survival (since most early doom appearances looked to finish with the killing of Doom).
The next question should be clarified, till they stop bothering, as I suppose they figured, “You get it, the Joker will most likely survive somehow,” thus in Fantastic Four #2 Annual (by Kirby, Lee and Chic Stone), we can see that Doom survived his appearing death in fantastic four #2.

They talk about the relationships between themselves, or they are THE SAME PERSON!?!??

I like how Rama-Tut tries to wave by hand, that it makes no sense for him to not know whether or not he literally is a doctor by throwing out Albert Einstein allusions.

And Rama-Tut finally returns Doom to Earth and is encouraged to move on in the future and fall into a crisis like Doom…

Nearly DIRECTLY since Fantastic Four Annual #2 was released by Kirby, Lee and Dick Ayers, Avengers #8 (“official” publication dates had four days apart but I think it was a week apart).


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